Showing posts with label internment. Show all posts
Showing posts with label internment. Show all posts

Tuesday, October 14, 2008

Bye bye forty-two days(?)

I haven't blogged for a while as various other concerns have been occupying my time, but back to the fore with the vote last night in the House of Lords overwhelmingly rejecting the proposals for forty-two days' detention and the subsequent government announcement that they are not going to try to force things through with the Parliament Act. The top politics story on the BBC News website is Davis 'vindicated' over 42 days and indeed he is.

However the reports that the government will not abandon the plan completely but instead keep a one page bill in reserve for emergencies are a little worrying, especially the suggestion that at the time they will declare they could have had the measure in place sooner "but for the unelected Lords". (BBC News: A tactical retreat on 42 days) This is posturing for the sake of it. And the government has been in power for eleven years - it's had all the time it could have wanted to change the composition of the Lords. But on the only actual public test of opinion Labour declined to defend its position (though others stepped forward to the task) and the public overwhelmingly rejected it. On this the Lords have shown themselves more in tune with public opinion than the Commons.

Friday, July 11, 2008

David Davis vindicated!

The results of the Haltemprice and Howden by-election, 2008, courtesy of Wikipedia:

Haltemprice and Howden by-election, 2008
Party Candidate Votes % ±%

Conservative David Davis 17,113 71.6 +24.1

Green Shan Oakes 1,758 7.4 N/A

English Democrats Joanne Robinson 1,714 7.2 N/A

National Front Tess Culnane 544 2.3 N/A

Miss Great Britain Party Gemma Garrett 521 2.2 N/A

Independent Jill Saward 492 2.1 N/A

Monster Raving Loony Mad Cow-Girl 412 1.7 N/A

Independent Walter Sweeney 238 1.0 N/A

Independent John Nicholson 162 0.7 N/A

Independent David Craig 135 0.6 N/A

The New Party David Pinder 135 0.6 N/A

no label David Icke 110 0.5 N/A

Freedom 4 Choice Hamish Howitt 91 0.4 N/A

Socialist Equality Chris Talbot 84 0.4 N/A

Independent Grace Astley 77 0.3 N/A

Christian Party George Hargreaves 76 0.3 N/A

Church of the Militant Elvis Party David Bishop 44 0.2 N/A

Independent John Upex 38 0.2 N/A

Independent Greg Wood 32 0.1 N/A

Independent Eamonn Fitzpatrick 31 0.1 N/A

Make Politicians History Ronnie Carroll 29 0.1 N/A

Independent Thomas Darwood 25 0.1 N/A

Independent Christopher Foren 23 0.1 N/A

Independent Herbert Crossman 11 0.0 N/A

Independent Tony Farnon 8 0.0 N/A

Independent Norman Scarth 8 0.0 N/A
Majority 15,355 64.2 +53.5
Turnout 23,911 34.5 -35.7

Conservative hold Swing N/A


With Labour running away from the opportunity to defend government policy the by-election could have had micro turnout but it didn't. David Davis has been vindicated in his courageous stance on forty-two days detention.

Looking at the also-rans, amazingly there are six women immediately behind Davis but this could just be because of candidate selection. And the Official Monster Raving Loony Party's hopes of getting their best ever result have been thwarted once again. Ronnie Carroll was looking for the lowest number of votes ever and failed - he didn't even finish in the bottom five. Here's a couple of tips - don't tell everyone that's your goal and don't run with a description saying "Make Politicians History" that was bound to pick up a few votes.

Wednesday, July 09, 2008

Has David Davis succeeded?

When David Davis announced his resignation from the Commons over 42 days detention many saw him as making a courageous move because opinion polls suggested that public opinion was behind the government on this issue.

Now an opinion poll has suggested a significant shift in public opinion, suggesting that because the issue has had much greater debate in public people have learnt more about it and decided they don't like it. Taking the debate to the wider public, rather than facing down Mad Cow Girl, has been the purpose of Davis's stance and it seems he's been successful, regardless of what the result is on Thursday.

Hattip to Iain Dale: Has David Davis's National Debate Been Sparked?

Wednesday, June 18, 2008

Who wants to be Gordon Brown?

The search for a person who will stand again David Davis on the government's position of forty-two days internment continues, with the news that the Labour Party has declined to put up a candidate and Kelvin MacKenzie is now unlikely to run either.

One interesting suggestion is for a Conservative who is in favour of forty-two days to stand, with ConservativeHome's own Tim Montgomerie being suggested. (Blaney's Blarney: A viable opponent for David Davis?) I believe this would result in Tim's expulsion from the party and it could also turn the whole election into a wider debate about the role of ConservativeHome in the modern party, which is not what most people want to see.

But if no major candidate is forthcoming, there is always the possibility of a paper candidature. As I previously blogged in I am seriously impressed with David Davis, in some of the by-elections over the Anglo-Irish Agreement when no-one would come forward to challenge a sitting Unionist (and yes, it was disgraceful that at the time the Conservative Party was not organised and contesting elections there and thus did not put up to defend the government policy, however bad that policy was) a Unionist activists changed his name by deed poll to "Peter Barry", the name of the Irish foreign minister, and stood as a paper candidate in four seats on a pro Agreement platform. Thus voters were able to choose between pro and anti-Agreement options.

So would anyone like to be Gordon Brown for an election?

I also note that someone I'd never heard of before called Andy Burnham, who is apparently the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, has managed to get a headline saying Davis 'should fund by-election' (BBC News). Would it be too much to hope for that Andy Burnham is also calling for Gordon Brown to personally reimburse the country all the public money that was spent in persuading enough MPs to support this measure?

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